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u/Octopus_vagina Mar 07 '26
Locking her knees out like she did at the end will eventually be problematic.
As long as mum and dad are living out their dreams. It’s a sacrifice that’s ok though
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u/cilantno Mar 07 '26
Looking your knees is not problematic unless you have hypermobility.
Locking your knees is required to complete the lift in powerlifting.Question for you: what is your personal experience with powerlifting or deadlifting? I’m very curious as to why you think what you write.
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u/Flat_Development6659 Mar 07 '26
You have to lock your knees out to complete a deadlift.
Generally locking out on most lifts is safe, issues generally occur when outside force has to be applied (think pressing your legs with your hands during a leg press) or if you have a genetic condition where your joints continue past straight (completely forgot what this is called).
A squat or deadlift isn't complete until your legs are locked out though.
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u/Octopus_vagina Mar 07 '26
It’s called hypermobility and if you watch her knees. She shows signs of being hyper model due to her age. My comment is valid
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u/VanHelsingBerserk Mar 08 '26
That's impressive how you can identify that diagnosis based on a totally normal looking knee lockout. You should share your methods with the medical professionals that would've green-lit this event, seems like they've got a lot to learn from you.
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u/ahmoc1503714 Mar 07 '26
Yeah, shes going to stay that height forever if she keeps it up.
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u/ProfessorVegan Mar 08 '26
Of course she won’t. However, Healthline is a lifestyle website and shouldn’t be relied on as a source of peer‑reviewed scientific information.
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u/Aldarund Mar 07 '26
Another stupid comment from someone who have no idea what he is talking about
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
It’s not like she woke up one day and said I’ll DL 180. She slowly worked up to that.
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u/gpnemtb Mar 07 '26
Weightlifting includes deadlifting. Bench pressing is also a compound movement.
This is not the first time she has walked up to a bar with that weight. And, she definitely trained with progressive overload to get there.
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u/DirtandPipes Mar 07 '26
Heavy weight as a child=damaged growth plates and stunted growth
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u/DirtandPipes Mar 08 '26
Huh, interesting. I dislike opinion articles so I went hunting for some actual science and found https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24393806/ and it seems to back up your point, it appears growth plate damage from weight lifting isn’t the issue I was told.
I appreciate your comment, but next time find something with an abstract. Thanks!
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u/StrookooCuckoo Mar 08 '26
I appreciate your comment, but next time find something with an abstract. Thanks!
Says the guy running to the comments to spout debunked myths from decades ago regarding a topic he clearly knows nothing about.
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u/DirtandPipes Mar 08 '26
It’s always fucked up to read somebody’s response, read their link, read a scientific study, admit you were wrong and update your views while also confirming to others that they were right.
I’m a sick fuck and I apologize, I’ll try to be more like you.
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u/ProbablyOats Mar 08 '26
Yeah, shes going to stay that height forever if she keeps it up.
Fully incorrect but you already know that by now
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u/shenanigains00 Mar 08 '26
When she’s three years older and stronger than anyone with opinions here will ever be, the top comment will be “sumo doesn’t count.”
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u/Mr-Blah Mar 07 '26
The bar to be allowed to raise a child is lower than that one, sadly.
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u/SubtractOneMore Mar 07 '26
The less qualified someone is to be a parent, the more likely they are to become one
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u/Vesploogie Mar 07 '26
You thinking this is common knowledge proves that access to information doesn’t make people smarter.
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u/Hara-Kiri Mar 08 '26
And it’s like common knowledge
Common knowledge is frequently common ignorance. Such as here.
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
It’s an extremely common *myth. It can be done safely. Also that bar is not even close to 180lbs.
EDIT: those are calibrated 55kg plates. It is 180lbs
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u/PhistleWig Mar 07 '26
Yeah looks like 135 if that is even a plate on it?
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
Bar 45 plus 2 45lb plates plus 2 10s plus 2 5s plus the collars which weigh 5 each is 180.
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
The Red weights are 25kg, which are 55lbs each
The collars are 2.5kg, so that’s 5.5lbs each
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
Ok great notice the other plates they put on too? 180lbs
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
Yeah, it’s 180lbs, but you’re using the wrong measurements for each plate lol
The bar is also 20kg/44lbs
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
You’re right I was using LBs and assuming. They are using Kilo plates. But the point was these knuckle heads trying to claim it’s not 180 - like they would lie at the Arnold for whatever reason.
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26
Those tiny red weights are 25kg? How do you know that? They look less than 5kg
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
Probably because I compete in powerlifting and am pretty dang strong: https://www.reddit.com/r/GYM/s/vVYQga7lTE
Those red plates are also calibrated, usually stainless steel, and are much thinner than your normal gym plates
I actually have 5 pairs of reds in my home gym
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
The Red weights are 25kg, which are 55lbs each
The collars are 2.5kg, so that’s 5.5lbs each
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26
Looks to be around ~80lbs
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u/cilantno Mar 07 '26
20+(2x25)+(2x2.5)+(2x1.25)+(2x2.5) =82.5kg.
Which is 181.88lbs.You can just not chime in on things you don’t know anything about.
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
I’ve been lifting weights for over 20 years. The bar is 45lbs, the largest plates look like 10 pound bumper plates. I suppose they could be 25 if they aren’t bumper.
Then there are two five pound weights and two clamps, which are usually 5lbs.
At most it should be 115lbs. Those weights look extremely skinny.
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
cmon bruh
It’s a powerlifting comp
Calibrated plates are skinny. Red 55s are standard
The bar is skinny because it’s a deadlift bar
Why are you so confidently wrong lol
20 years of lifting and you’ve never seen powerlifting plates?
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u/cilantno Mar 07 '26
Baby boy.
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26
Ah, no I have never heard of that. Fuck off and have a nice day.
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u/cilantno Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
Me-ow!
Sorry I popped your bubble. I’d feel a bit silly too if I tried to claim some level of experience and didn’t know something very basic.Also, I creeped on your profile. I’m sorry about your bench :/
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u/Patton370 Mar 08 '26
You know you’re arguing with people who bench significantly more than you & compete in powerlifting
I’m at a 347lb bench and cilantno has a 415lb bench
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
Cool story. Ever lifted at a real powerlifting gym or ever competed at a meet, the Arnold?
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26
Nope. I’ve broken into the elite weight tier though.
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u/Flat_Development6659 Mar 08 '26
You bench 230lbs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/beginnerfitness/s/FHEbsRocYa
You've not broken into elite anything. A 230lb bench isn't even a warmup.
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
In the gym. Who cares.
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u/deanusMachinus Mar 07 '26
Sounds like someone has no elite lifts. Maybe try putting more effort in, it usually helps ;)
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u/UncleBones Mar 07 '26
Those mistakes are way more dangerous for kids.
Why? When I grew up kids were regularly recovering from some broken bone from skiing or bicycling or falling out of trees or whatever. We recovered just fine. Meanwhile people make memes about how they’re 40 years old and bedridden because they sneezed wrong. When is the magical age when you’re allowed to push yourself?
Are you this concerned about the sports that are actually statistically responsible for most injuries in children, or do you only care when you feel weaker than a 9 year old?
My kids have tried to lift logs, rocks and each other all through their lives. Do you honestly think it’s more risky to lift a barbell in a controlled environment than it is to try to lift a treestump while standing in mud?
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u/CaptainSaladbarGuy Mar 07 '26
This isn’t next level this is incredibly stupid and very bad for the kid.
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u/TheDarcingCapibara Mar 07 '26
A kid lifting weights makes you think her life is ruined. Tell me who is crying.
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u/coffeeonwhiteshirt Mar 07 '26
I bet farm or village kids lift this kind weight and more doing regular chores.
I think people calling this child abuse have to chill. Leave that phrase to actual child abuse pls.
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 07 '26
And contact sports are FAR more dangerous than this.
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u/VanHelsingBerserk Mar 08 '26
Ikr we'll be fine with training kids to run as fast and hard as they can into each other, head first, so they can get the ball across the line. But God forbid they strengthen and reinforce themselves against such forces.
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 08 '26
I wonder what the TBI rate is for powerlifting. I know it's non-zero because every now and then someone passes out and hits their head, but it's gotta be a lot lower than American football, and probably most or all other contact sports.
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u/Aware-Instance-210 Mar 07 '26
Isn't that child abuse?
Why are all these grownups cheering?
You see something, you say something for gods sake
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u/Hara-Kiri Mar 08 '26
Isn't that child abuse?
It's not, no.
Why are all these grownups cheering?
Cheering is common sports and other social interactions humans may have.
You see something, you say something for gods sake
Yeah they're cheering!
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u/Bl8kStrr Mar 07 '26
Now I understand why most kids are fat, lazy and out of shape. The same people complaining here obviously have a problem with PeeWee Football, Youth Wrestling, Little League Sports, Club Soccer, Youth Gymnastics and Cheerleading. You are a bunch of Pearl Clutchers
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u/Diablo_v8 Mar 07 '26
This is pretty young to be moving that kind of weight. I don't think most pediatricians would be loving this
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u/Diablo_v8 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
No one suggested it would stunt her growth , that's fucking absurd. However, most doctors wouldn't reccomend this type of training for a 9 year old. Their joints are still developing and the injury risks generally out weigh the benefits. Strength training is usually ok, but most medical journals appear to recommend body weight and very light weight higher rep training regimes under strict supervision.
The mayo clinic for example doesn't reccomend power lifting type training till the ages of 12-13. That might not seem like a big gap. But the developmental difference between a 9 year old and a 12 year old is very significant.
However, all that being said, this girl is obviously very strong. Good for her, I hope she can continue to do it safely and doesn't do lasting damage to her body that might prevent her from reaching her true potential when her body is more equipped for this level of training.
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
It’s fine for a 9 year old to deadlift, as long as they have the disposition to be able to be coached to good form
She has good form, so obviously she can be coached to lift properly
Some kids can learn to lift like this earlier. Some have to wait longer
It depends on the kid, but yeah every 12-13 year old should be mature enough to be taught proper lifting form
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u/gpnemtb Mar 07 '26
Multiple people in this thread have said it would stunt her growth and claimed it's child abuse.
Apologies if that's not what you were thinking with your pediatrician comment.
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u/Diablo_v8 Mar 07 '26
People probably misinterpret the potential damage to the growth plates.
In general it's just a very high stress movement for a developing body so there are body ways to train for a 9 year old.
This girl probably 60ish pounds so it's the equivalent of like a 600 pound deadlift. That's hard on any body, so when it's still developing and significant injuries have more long term repercussions, it's potentially very damaging long term and thus not recommended. Doesn't equate to child abuse I don't think but it shouldn't be seen as something every kid should be doing
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u/ProbablyOats Mar 08 '26
Whattayathink is gonna happenhere? This is fine. Safe. Acceptable. Prove me wrong
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u/Diablo_v8 Mar 08 '26
Yes you are so much smarter than doctors and specialists who study these things for a living. Congrats, your years of medical science have finally paid off in the reddit comments.
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u/Pichuck Mar 08 '26
Did you ever stand on one leg and jump as a child? Congrats, you put yourself under considerably more force.
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u/Diablo_v8 Mar 08 '26
Reddit commenters are always smarter than literal doctors and specialists. Congrats.
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u/PogonBerserker Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
Organisations like the American Academy of Paediatrics advise that children can do strength training, but it should focus on light weights, good technique, and higher repetitions rather than maximal or very heavy lifts like this, as they increase the risk of injury, especially to the back and growth plates.
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u/Patton370 Mar 07 '26
The form is good here
Any kids of any age can lift, as long as they have the disposition to learn how to lift properly. This could be as early as 7 or 8 years old or take until they are a teenager
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u/shenanigains00 Mar 08 '26
I’m wildly jealous that I didn’t start training this young.
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u/Patton370 Mar 08 '26
I got into running after that
I only have about 5 years of serious training experience
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u/Ballbag94 Mar 08 '26
Light is relative to the lifter
The technique is good
Simply because it's a single rep doesn't mean it's a max, I wouldn't be surprised if she could hit this for 3+ reps based on the speed
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u/Theworker82 Mar 07 '26
Big fucking deal, as a grown ass man , I can dead lift that much.
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u/BarrelRider907 Mar 07 '26
Yeah alright buddy there’s a difference in a grown ass man and a nine year old girl
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u/SageOfSix- Mar 07 '26
people on reddit complain about everything lmao
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u/Will_TheMagicTrees Mar 07 '26
I hate the people who whine about kids doing parkour, or climbing, or extreme sports, or just being kids in general. I take all my own nieces and nephews rock climbing, and snowboarding, it’s great for their character and courage, especially when taught responsibility…this is not that.
There is no credible science that says taking risks is bad for kids, but there is a shit ton of credible science that says this kind of lifting is extremely harmful to children’s growth and development. It certainly shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged.
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u/IrrelevantManatee Mar 07 '26
Sorry if people against child abuse inconvenience you.
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u/SignificantError8929 Mar 07 '26
So what was the child abuse? Do you know the parents or the kid?
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u/TheChoksbergen Mar 07 '26
Guys, you’re not going to want to hear this, but the research indicating that lifting stunts your growth has been disproved many times. This is not child abuse. Unless you count being trained to pull sumo, which certainly opens you to a world of bullying and shame for years to come.
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I see the maggots are out in force.
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u/Mr_Goonman Mar 07 '26
Dude its unreal. These mouthbreathers are furious if you suggest powerlifting and beauty pageants are unhealthy for kids. Something is wrong with grown adults who insist on making kindergartners do adult things despite what science says. Very weird.
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u/Patton370 Mar 08 '26
If my daughter feels like she wants to lift and powerlift like her dad, I’ll teach her how to lift as soon as the has the disposition and maturity to learn
This is going to vary from kid to kid; it could be as early as age 6 or 7 (starting with a PVC pipe and very very very very slowly building up) or as late as 13. It all depends on the kid
The lift here is fine, because she has great form & is having fun doing it
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u/Ballbag94 Mar 08 '26
What science says that lifting weights is bad for kids or that it's an "adult thing"?
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u/Stressuredford Mar 07 '26
Pretty much is. 25kg red plates + 2,5kg plates + 2,5kg locks + 20kg bar.
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
Reds: 50kg
Blacks: 5kg
Silvers: 2.5kg
Collars: 5kg
Bar: 20kg
82.5kg =181.881 lb
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u/QuarterEmotional6805 Mar 07 '26
20kg plates, 2.5kg plates and the bar. Would not be 180lbs.
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
when have they ever used 20kg plates in powerlifting??
Reds are 25kg and you forgot to add the weight of the collars
Reds: 50kg
Blacks: 5kg
Silvers: 2.5kg
Collars: 5kg
Bar: 20kg
82.5kg =181.881 lb
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u/SimonPho3nix Mar 07 '26
I hear you. It looked like 2 45s and 2 10s with the bar usually being 45 pounds, right? So 155?
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u/Flat_Development6659 Mar 07 '26
Reds are 25kg. The collars they use in powerlifting/strongman are 2.5kg. Blacks are 2.5kg. Silvers are 1.25kg. An Olympic bar is 20kg.
Two reds (50kg) + two blacks (5kg) + two silvers (2.5kg) + two collars (5kg) + one bar (20kg) = 82.5kg
82.5kg * 2.2 = 181.5lbs
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u/UnrequitedFollower Mar 07 '26
Someone has to be a kinesiologist here. Is this… good… for health… at age?
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u/jddev_ Mar 08 '26
Pretty sure that can cause major development issues. Kids need to just be kids.
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u/RedVell Mar 07 '26
Doesn't look like 180 lbs. Are those special plates?
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26
Reds: 50kg
Blacks: 5kg
Silvers: 2.5kg
Collars: 5kg
Bar: 20kg
82.5kg =181.881 lb
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u/RedVell Mar 08 '26
Forgive me for not knowing. Didn't know asking questions was grounds for downvotes, redditors sure are sensitive.
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u/Chance_External_4371 Mar 07 '26
Just wait until she can get on gear. It’s going to be next next level
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 Mar 07 '26
kids at that age should be doing bodyweight/resistance band training. IIRC, you're not supposed to start "weight training" until you're at least 14
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u/gpnemtb Mar 07 '26
https://www.healthline.com/health/does-lifting-weights-stunt-growth
There's no age limit
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 Mar 07 '26
LoL at weight lifting stunting growth, that's not what I said.
I'm just telling you what the Mayo Clinic says...strength training, not weight training. Weightlifting puts strain on tendons, ligaments, and growth plates in bones that aren't fully formed.
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u/gpnemtb Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
Your article comes to the same conclusion mine does and offers further support to mine.
Weightlifting is considered to be two exercises: snatch and clean and jerk. But is often used to just highlight lifting weights.
Strength training includes Weightlifting and other forms of resistance training.
Your own article says kids can start strength training, which, again, includes weight lifting, at 7 or 8.
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It's honestly embarrassing how wrong your statement is and that you offered an article that refutes your own claim.
From the article you provided:
Children can do many strength training exercises using their own body weight or resistance tubing. Free weights, machine weights and medicine balls are other options. But keep in mind that some equipment designed for adults might be too large for many children.
What can kids get out of strength training? Done right, strength training can:
Increase children's muscle strength. Help protect children's muscles and joints from sports injuries. Help children do better in nearly any sport. Teach children proper form. Keep in mind that strength training isn't only for athletes. Even for children who don't want to play sports, strength training can:
Strengthen bones. Help promote healthy blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Help maintain a healthy weight. Help kids feel good about themselves. Increase physical activity overall. When can a child begin strength training? During childhood, being active improves kids' body awareness and control and their balance. Strength training can become a part of a fitness plan as early as age 7 or 8.
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 Mar 08 '26
How does what's in that article apply to a 9 yo lifting 180lbs on adult free weights? Are you saying that she just started strength training last year?
Did you read the whole article?"Don't confuse strength training with weightlifting, bodybuilding or powerlifting. Trying to build big muscles can put too much strain on young muscles, tendons and areas of cartilage that haven't yet turned to bone, called growth plates. Also, being more focused on lifting large amounts of weight than on form can make strength training riskier.
For kids, light weights and controlled movements are best. Using good form and being safe are most important.
Children can do many strength training exercises using their own body weight or resistance tubing. Free weights, machine weights and medicine balls are other options. But keep in mind that some equipment designed for adults might be too large for many children."
She's lifting massive weight on an adult bar with basic mistakes in form (locking knees, hyperextending back at lockout, banging bar on knees). That's literally the opposite of what the article says 9 yo kids should be doing.
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u/Ballbag94 Mar 08 '26
What's the difference between 180lbs on resistance bands vs free weights? What do you think makes a pull up safe but a barbell row dangerous?
How have you established the "safe" age?
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u/RawrImABigScaryBear Mar 07 '26
man youre going to feel so stupid when you learn what calibrated plates are
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26
Reds: 50kg
Blacks: 5kg
Silvers: 2.5kg
Collars: 5kg
Bar: 20kg
82.5kg =181.881 lb
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
yes bro we use them all the fucking time in powerlifting
I get it tho, it’s pretty unbelievable how dense and thin it is the first time you lift with it
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26
it’s a powerlifting comp
red 55s are standard
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26
come on bruh it’s a standard red 55 you see in any powerlifting comp
looks like you just discovered calibrated plates for the first time
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
So how much do you think they are? I mean, you're right that they're not 45 lbs, and I had a little brain fart there. But if you know how much they weigh, then how do you think this is 60 lbs?
Also, lol, yes, I have a gym right down the hall that has calibrated steel plates.
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u/JackZodiac2008 Mar 07 '26
I was afraid I was about watch a 9 year old dislocate both her shoulders
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u/Jtbny Mar 07 '26
And instead you saw a 9 year old with good sumo form excited to get 3 white lights.
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u/greysnowcone Mar 07 '26
This is not 180 lbs and it’s also stupid as fuck
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u/ezmonehsniper Mar 07 '26
You’re right bro it’s 181lbs
Reds: 50kg
Blacks: 5kg
Silvers: 2.5kg
Collars: 5kg
Bar: 20kg
82.5kg =181.881 lb
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u/PassiveSpamBot Mar 07 '26
This is even more fuxked up than those child beauty pageants. Fuck her parents and every adult participating in this.
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u/splycedaddy Mar 07 '26
I agree with everyone here. Too young for weights but her quads putting me to shame
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