r/UnderReportedNews Feb 17 '26

US Politics šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø Senator Mark Kelly says he will 'seriously consider' running for president

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u/G-bone714 Feb 17 '26

As soon as I saw Republicans attacking him I knew he was considering a run.

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u/Legendary_Lamb2020 Feb 17 '26

I remember when AOC first won, and Fox News went on a tirade, it was clear whoever this woman was Republicans knew she was going to be popular.

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u/BreakfastMedical5164 Feb 17 '26

attractive, of color, can speak about issues, attacks actual problems and discrepancies -- yeah neither establishment Dems nor GOP like her

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

And came from an actually relatable background, which they still make fun of.

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u/FakeDoctorMeatCoat Feb 17 '26

Kelly/AOC ticket would be pretty strong. Newsom is vocal, but might drive more people to the polls just to vote against him.

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u/Thats_my_face_sir Feb 17 '26

Newsom has his charisma as a public speaker, but ultimately an establishment dem, not a progressive. Id prefer he not run.

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u/8amteetime Feb 17 '26

As a Californian, I can only agree. He’s not a popular choice here.

Kelly is a better option.

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u/Money_Do_2 Feb 17 '26

Not really. Whoever does his socials is ok, but hes not that charismatic.

People are praising his strong "Idk figure it out yourselves" stance in the Eurozone, but if you really want to know the man, check him out on all his right wing podcast appearances.

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u/Spikeintheroad Feb 17 '26

As soon as I saw him post of him personally clearing out a homeless encampment as a photo op it told me everything i ever needed to know about him as a candidate and a person.

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u/BreakfastMedical5164 Feb 17 '26

dude works for california billionaires

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Feb 17 '26

fox news love talking about his fumbles on homelessness

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u/Spikeintheroad Feb 17 '26

On what basis can they fault his treatment of the homeless? That he's not pushing them into the wood chipper fast enough? That he's letting them make peace with God before he personally kills them?

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u/jeremyries Feb 17 '26

True while I’d like Newsom as a public figure, I feel like Kelly’s logical nature and military background would make him more relatable to everyone.

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u/gweilojoe Feb 17 '26

I’d vote for an astronaut over a windbag any day.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Feb 17 '26

she can do more to call out schumer and other centrist dems

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u/Dangerous_Leg4584 Feb 17 '26

If I was American, I absolutely would vote for her, given the chance.

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u/MaximusMansteel Feb 17 '26

Yeah, they're giving her the Hilary Clinton treatment: try to define her negatively in the public's eye long before she runs for national office so you already have an ingrained narrative about her from the start she has to overcome.

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u/TetZoo Feb 17 '26

Love his policies and background but man is he a terrible speaker.

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u/AlwaysFinnishInsider Feb 17 '26

Even being able to just talk in complete, coherent sentences is a massive upgrade over the walking corpse we have in office currently.

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u/forever_downstream Feb 17 '26

Sure but we can't ignore how effective it is to effectively be able to get attention in the social media age. That was a huge issue with Biden. He surprisingly had good progressive policies but he was horrible at announcing them or making them known without people going to sleep. Democrats deserve a candidate who can excite people. Bernie would have been that, but...

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u/Herb-Alpert Feb 17 '26

Imagine the posterity of his speeches in History books. The davos speech was out of this world

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u/brutallykind Feb 17 '26

I feel like the folk recording his speeches tend to write what he meant instead of what he said.

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u/Discerningdragon Feb 17 '26

Oration can be learned. Get him a tutor!

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u/BumbleMuggin Feb 17 '26

Way more palatable to undecided voters over Newsom.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Agreed, Newsom makes me feel gross whenever I see or hear him talking.

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u/Aol_awaymessage Feb 17 '26

He’s got that manager at a BMW dealership vibe

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u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN Feb 17 '26

President on a TV show who’s supposed to be the bad guy energy

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u/Unsweetgummiebears Feb 17 '26

Maybe in the 80s and 90s that would be true. But I felt that way about Trump and he got elected 2x!!!

Trump doesn’t even come off like a Lex Luther bad guy, more like the captain planet bad guy. Literally just evil and corrupt for the love of the game.

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u/G_yebba Feb 17 '26

*finance manager at a BMW dealership vibe

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u/LostInNuance Feb 17 '26

He's the 80s guy from Futurama

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u/MayhemSays Feb 17 '26

Thats a painfully accurate description of him.

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u/WildAmsonia Feb 17 '26

He literally looks like Satan in a suit.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

Yeah, he hates the same people the Rs do, but his people can troll, and he smiles so he's suddenly massively popular.Ā 

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u/CBJFAN10 Feb 17 '26

Newsom, while intelligent and good looking, is also well-known and controversial based on recent statements he has made regarding the excuse that non-voters used in 2024 to not show up…Israel Gaza.

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u/Burntfruitypebble Feb 17 '26

Him being MARRIED to Kimberly Guilfoyle is enough proof. Even if it’s formerly, it still counts. People like that flock together.

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u/azsnaz Feb 17 '26

Do you think he sees her face today and think WHAT THE FUCK

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u/Pherllerp Feb 17 '26

He and AOC are the only big name Democrats actually going on the world stage and decisively countering Trumpism. Mark Kelly sure is doing a lot of 'thinking about' doing things, how much more thinking needs to be done?

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u/TBCaine Feb 17 '26

Probably the fact he’s very cozy with white supremacists and has interviews with them. He’s not to be trusted imo

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u/zombiesphere89 Feb 17 '26

He talks a big game but he's a corpo thru and thru

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u/oopsallhuckleberries Feb 17 '26

Because he is a well known hypocrite and slimeball. You look up corrupt politician in the dictionary and Newsom's picture may as well be there.

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u/cubs108108 Feb 17 '26

I agree! His vibe is way off.

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u/tdRftw Feb 17 '26

this is how russian bots started planting seeds of doubt on left leaning social media about hillary in 2015 btw

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u/Aol_awaymessage Feb 17 '26

I don’t hate the guy. He’s clearly smart. To be fair, without daddy’s money Trump probably actually would have been a used car salesman in Queens or something. Has the look and everything.

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u/desolationistny Feb 17 '26

I always got Long Island used car salesman vibes.

Trumps nowhere near street smart enough to sell cars in Queens. A Suffolk County housewife looking for a minivan or an accountant that commutes to Manhattan for work though, different story- which is coincidentally a lot of his voter base in NY

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

His dad made that look and he carried it on.Ā 

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u/MC_LegalKC Feb 17 '26

What specifically do you mean? What is it that you see as similar to the Russian big campaign?

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u/Homey-Airport-Int Feb 17 '26

Lol please Hillary was polarizing for literally decades prior to her run.

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u/Pherllerp Feb 17 '26

Bingo.

Every time someone's name comes up (Hillary in the past, Newsome now) make sure there are ten comments talking shit about they 'feel wrong'. Its nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

What happened to Hillary started well before 2015. The right saw her coming and started sowing the seeds of discord the day Bill left office for Hillary. Having said that- I agree that international interference has become an issue that should not be ignored. I’m really not sure what to do. Issuing every American a digital ID sounds a bit big brother, making digital companies display location would also work. With all that being said- screw Hillary- if she had not cheated in 16 then Bernie might have had a chance.

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u/Inuhanyou123 Feb 17 '26

Hillary doomed herself. Progressives were gearing to fight for the presidency. That's why Bernie ran to begin with because warren didn't run despite people begging her to, and could see peoples dissatisfaction with the status quo growing.

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u/TheNibbaNator Feb 17 '26

you people who can’t stand to read criticism of the establishments neo-lib pick are the exact reason Trump is even in office btw we are years away from a pick and you’re already hand wringing. If Newsome is the nominee he may not even win, and if he does, it will be more of the same bullshit from the establishment, just with a liberal coat of paint. voters will be upset and then next election we will have a second trump. demand more from your democratic party

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u/K10RumbleRumble Feb 17 '26

Honestly? Longtime retired military, no major aspect of his character rubs me the wrong way, seems to be no bullshit, seems to have some balls, might be palatable enough for some of the people that are merely stupid, not evil….

I’m for it. We could elect any random 32 year old at this point and as long as they aren’t the center of a billionaire pedophile cabal, I’m good with them for a minute instead of this. But Mark Kelly might actually have the proper ability to bring a shred of hope and respect back to what could be a wonderful, inclusive country.

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u/echoshatter Feb 17 '26

We could elect any random 32 year oldĀ 

35 is technically the age requirement for President.

30 for Senator.

25 for Representative.

Yet amazingly no age requirement for a Supreme Court Justice or other judge..... which is super weird because it is a lifetime appointment.

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u/username-is-taken-3 Feb 17 '26

Both bought and paid for AIPAC

Before I get downvoted for the truth. I have a question.

Why can't we want a president that is not rooting for another country to the point they make laws to cancel anything bad said about that other country even though they meddle in our democracy?

Why do I get downvoted in every thread for asking for a US politician not be paid for from AIPAC?

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u/ArtDeve Feb 17 '26

I totally agree with you this but note that sometimes the money is bundled in the political party money.

Many times, politicians aren't taking the money directly from AIPAC; which should be considered a foreign adversary or worse.

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u/Esphyxiate Feb 17 '26

No AIPAC money should be the bare minimum. The overwhelming majority of the voters in this country don’t want to support someone who takes AIPAC money.

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u/PlantDaddyFL Feb 17 '26

The overwhelming majority of voters vote for politicians who take aipac money

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u/BumbleMuggin Feb 17 '26

I’ll upvote you. I would like someone who doesn’t take their money too.

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u/AdParticular6654 Feb 17 '26

I get it, but truly, how is it goes for Palestine now? Better with Trump/Vance?

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u/Jar545 Feb 17 '26

Exactly. I'm independent and did not like Kamala (I did vote for her over trump before everyone loses their minds). If I have no choice but to vote Democrat, I want an astronaut.

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u/Sabrinasockz Feb 17 '26

Could we maybe consider a progressive candidate one fucking time? Why is the go to always the most conservative Democrats you can imagine

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 Feb 17 '26

But have you considered how sad that would make billionaires?

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u/Sabrinasockz Feb 17 '26

You're right. I apologize for my lack of empathy 😭

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 Feb 17 '26

Remember - we as democrats NEED to run a centrist and suppress voter turnout even though progressive candidates bringing out more voters would give us a better chance to win. It’s better to win with a few votes from moderate republicans than millions of votes from left-leaning voters. This is very important!

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u/urmumlol9 Feb 17 '26

Tbh, what I really want is someone, progressive or not, who passes progressive policies and can get elected.

Biden did that pretty well his first term, give me that but on steroids and I’m set, even if they have to sound centrist while running to get elected.

Oh yeah, and who will hold this administration accountable for the crimes they’ve committed both in and out of office. That’s important too.

Beyond that I don’t really care about whether they ā€œappearā€ progressive.

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u/joemeteorite8 Feb 17 '26

Because our country obviously doesn’t want that unfortunately. One whiff of socialism and half our population screams ā€œcommunism,ā€ without knowing what either word means.

It’s to easy to propagandize those types of candidates here because our country is dumb.

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u/Inuhanyou123 Feb 17 '26

"our country doesn't want that". Maybe we should run on in a general that doesn't have a primary stacked against them by establishment candidates and find out

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u/Sabrinasockz Feb 17 '26

I do find that most people tend to lean more socialist than they realize if you talk to them about it. It's just become a Boogeyman for so many older people and the propaganda was effective

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u/Inuhanyou123 Feb 17 '26

This is why you need people who know how to connect their issues together and go to people where they are.

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u/RatZveloc Feb 17 '26

I think the reality is that progressive candidates aren't viable until the republican party is obsolete.

Like a generation of all democrat no republican before real progress is made here.

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u/FillMySoupDumpling Feb 17 '26

Progress happens achingly slowly. Do we have many progressive county seats? state legislatures?Ā 

For republicans to get where they are today it started with operation Redmap to take ahold of local and state legislatures. It took the (billionaire backed) tea party and coordinates efforts to primary and oust anyone who wasn’t toeing the line. That gave rise to MAGA not to mention billionaire funded propaganda machines. We (as a nation, not just progressives) sat on our hands at every turn letting more and more power just get consolidated. Instead of a democrat we could push for progress, we now have an authoritarian that has no issue with killing us asking for the freedoms we once thought we had.

Progressives lack that level of organization and coordination. It’s way harder (but far more authentic) when you’re not being backed by billionaires and massive corporations lending financial and operational support.

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u/Craigslisteria Feb 17 '26

Beat me to it

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u/scrandis Feb 17 '26

Yeah, I'll take Kelly over Newsom any day. Newsom is a corporate sellout. He will burn us the second he becomes president

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u/WhosThatJamoke Feb 17 '26

Just wait until the Democratic Party insists he has no chance of winning and gives us Newsom instead

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u/SprinklesOk7007 Feb 17 '26

Both take Israeli money though, don't they?

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u/BumbleMuggin Feb 17 '26

I haven’t looked at that yet. It’s way too early for me to start burning calories investigating people who haven’t announced they’re running. Haha!

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u/rawzombie26 Feb 17 '26

I’ll take a bag of beans over the orange rapist racist any day of the week.

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u/Master_Clock9683 Feb 17 '26

His sit down conversation with Ben Shapiro made him a non-candidate for me.

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u/ThisIsTheShway Feb 17 '26

If newsom runs the Democratic Party is dead.

He’s a wealthy elite who only caters to other wealthy elites. I dunno if you know this but the majority of California outside of a few extremely expensive neighbors is pretty shitty. Highest taxes in the nation with next to nothing to show for it.Ā 

LA is one of the worst cities to visit, let alone live in, Oakland is still a disaster, Stockton is a disaster, SF is impossible to live in if you didn’t inherit something, and public transportation is currently terrible. BART could be great but it doesn’t go all the way around the bay, only from Fremont to north bay.Ā 

We have the tech capital of the world in Silicon Valley but good luck affording a 1 bedroom apartment. NIMBY laws keep new affordable housing from being developed, but we’ll have plenty of ā€œluxuryā€ condos that nobody can afford, and any new houses being developed are closed off from the middle class - only the very wealthy can buy these things.

Fuck Gavin Newsom.

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u/BumbleMuggin Feb 17 '26

I cringe at the thought of Gavin saying in a debate he’s for the working man right before being asked about his dinner party at the French Laundry while we were all locked down.

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u/AnubisSaves Feb 17 '26

Doesn't take too much to be better than Newsom.

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u/Pitiful_Hedgehog6343 Feb 17 '26

You might not like him but this dumb fucking country would show up for a charismatic good looking tall white guy. He knows retail politics better than reddit leftists.

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u/zenigatamondatta Feb 17 '26

Newsom should just run as a Republican since he basically is one.

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u/l00pee Feb 17 '26

Thank God. Didn't want to be stuck with him. We need a proper American to show the gas station supplement bros what an actual man looks like.

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u/RandyMuscle Feb 17 '26

First candidate to promise Epstein trials and Nuremberg 2.0 gets my vote. Anything less is not enough.

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u/runs-with-scissors42 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Nuremberg let far too many monsters walk free from what I've read; we need to do better than that.
I don't care who they are or how "useful" they might be.
I don't care if it takes out most of the members/leaders of either party.
I don't care if it causes corporations to collapse and wrecks the economy.
I just don't care.
To hell with the repercussions, because if even a tenth of the stuff we've seen from the files is true, such people cannot be allowed to walk free, let alone remain in positions of power.

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Feb 17 '26

They chose 24 people to indict because that is how many they could fit on the benches they planned to erect.

They did get the top of the Nazi leadership that hadn't already killed themselves or died. But yeah still too many walked free who had a hand in some bad things. Albert speer should have hanged in my opinion. Dude got off very light after being one of Hitler's top guys for years.

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 Feb 17 '26

walked free

They literally brought many of them to the US on planes and put them into positions of authority.

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u/geraffes-are-so-dumb Feb 17 '26

lets get into hair splitting after we win the election

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u/Nnuuuke Feb 17 '26

I agree and no more $ to Israel.

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u/ls7eveen Feb 17 '26

A d maybe Medicare for all

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Stop the foreign funding all together at this rateĀ 

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u/doublethink_1984 Feb 17 '26

RICO for Epstein enterprise co-conspirators or clients as well as those in charge of cover ups.

RICO for government officials who conspired to break the law and extend the arm.of the executive where they don't have authority as well as doing illegal stuff under their "purview" take the dismissed cases the government backed the perps on regarding ICE violence as them publically back8ng criminals

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u/DonkeyElegant1728 Feb 17 '26

Trump also promised to release the esptein files during his campaign lmao. It's going to take more than promises

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u/RociBuldidi Feb 17 '26

Dude was a 24 year veteran and war combat pilot and a multi flight astronaut who gave up both to become his wife’s full time caretaker because some NazinMAGA chud shot her in the face at a campaign event.

Then he became a wildly popular Senator from AZ.

He is well spoken, smart and electable. If he isn’t at the top of the ticket, it’s a mistake.

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u/TheAnalogKid18 Feb 17 '26

He's everything Hegseth dreams about.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

That has to be horrifying but hilarious for Mark

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u/kevthecoder Feb 17 '26

He doesn’t look like a bottle of Jack Daniels though?

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Above all the party needs a wide open primary, but if it started today everyone else running would be trying to pry my vote away from Kelly

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u/MoneyElevator Feb 17 '26

He should have been running in 2024, freaking Biden

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u/Ok-Goal-8767 Feb 17 '26

He probably the best one so far

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u/Weekly-Air4170 Feb 17 '26

He has taken over half a million dollars in bribes from israel. Abso-fucking-lutely not

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

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u/DarthSomething05 Feb 17 '26

You’re not even past the primary. This is the point where people are supposed to be critical of the candidates, so that you can pick out the best one possible

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u/UnderwhelmingAF Feb 17 '26

Would much rather have him than Newsom.

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u/Djentyman28 Feb 17 '26

The democratic primaries will be very crowded but that’s what it’s for. Hopefully the best person wins

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u/AdParticular6654 Feb 17 '26

It's what should have happened in 2024

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u/NarrativeNode Feb 17 '26

Newsom should run his campaign and then let him be president, lol.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

Newsom's people, you mean?

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u/KonaKumo Feb 17 '26

As a right leaning Californian...I agree wholeheartedly. Would vote for Sen. Kelly. Won't vote for Newsom.

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u/Wernershnitzl Feb 17 '26

He’d definitely be a strong candidate considering his military background and assertiveness

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u/perihelion86 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

No AIPAC money which is a huge huge huge plus

Edit: nvm, he does. What a disappointment.

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u/Dicky_Penisburg Feb 17 '26

? He's taken in $500k from AIPAC

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u/perihelion86 Feb 17 '26

Gemini said he didn't. I just checked trackaipac, looks like I was wrong. Will edit. Thanks.

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u/amusingredditname Feb 17 '26

Stop relying on AI to do basic research.

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u/breakevencloud Feb 17 '26

I’ll vote for literally anyone who doesn’t take AIPAC money at this point

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

While aipac is the main target right now, definitely look into other foreign investors!Ā 

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u/DarthSomething05 Feb 17 '26

And focus on their actual policies

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u/TheUnderCrab Feb 17 '26

More veterans in the field is a good thing. Get Pete, Wes, and Mark together to show the nation which party’s candidates actually puts their lives on the line to defend the constitution.Ā 

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u/Quite_Kielbasa Feb 17 '26

I'd vote for an astronaut military vet representative that also seems to care about people's rights.

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u/a_day_at_a_timee Feb 17 '26

right? like seriously what else do people need? this man has spent his life in service of others.

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u/Pherllerp Feb 17 '26

They need him to make as much noise as Trump, AOC, and Newsome for starters.

He's already shaping up to be a real 20th candidate. If he wants to be the President who fixes this mess then he better speak up and run now.

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u/joemeteorite8 Feb 17 '26

Seems like a slam dunk to me. Anyone else is a mistake imo

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u/GeneralIronsides2 Feb 17 '26

If he publicly says he’ll arrest the Epstein names I’d vote for him. I don’t want a corporate shill dem

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Feb 17 '26

You should vote for him regardless unless you’re okay with ā€œboth sidesā€ing your way into literal, actual authoritarianism and one-party rule by oligarchs

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u/rigsnpigs Feb 17 '26

Lol so don't ask for better candidates?

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u/doctorlightning84 Feb 17 '26

If AOC decides to run as well, he would be her only really serious competition

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u/PaulieHehehe Feb 17 '26

I think a Kelly/Ocasio-Cortez ticket would be great.

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u/Monte924 Feb 17 '26

There is no point in AOC being VP. The VP has very little real role in the government. AOC would do FAR more running for senate and ending Schumer's career

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u/PhuckNorris69 Feb 17 '26

Being a VP vastly increases your chance of becoming president one day though

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u/Monte924 Feb 17 '26

Only if the presidency goes well. If it goes poorly then being tied to the administration can weigh them down... just ask Harris

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u/Garys_Synthesizer Feb 17 '26

That’s extra infuriating because its all misinformation that it didnt go well.

Her coming off of bidens term against dump should have been a landlside. That amount of uninformed decision making is why I have so little faith in this country.

Edit: and for clarity, no it wasnt perfect, but economically they were fantastic at handling the global crash of covid and the inflation crisis. They werent attacking the constitution and most importantly… it was a competent cabinet.

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u/Big_Fortune_4574 Feb 17 '26

She needs a lot of maturing before she’s ready for that. She’s still lashing out at people on Twitter on a regular basis. That’s the kind of thing we should be avoiding in our presidents

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u/Pherllerp Feb 17 '26

Dick Cheney would like a word.

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u/AwarenessRude5541 Feb 17 '26

While AOC would be great it is such a pipe dream to run a woman again at this time. It has become such an easy thing for the GOP to sway middle votes against, they'll just run the same hit pieces they did for Clinton/Harris.

If Kelly runs, I'd like to see something like Kelly/Beshear has a better fighting opportunity. Military/Astronaut, Dem from rural KY who wins with Red voters.

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u/avondalia Feb 17 '26

AOC would crush vance.Ā  Not sure about how she would do vs Rubio

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u/stargarnet79 Feb 17 '26

AOC is not electable in the United States of America please don’t make another Hillary Kamala mistake.

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u/bigbugzman Feb 17 '26

AOC is not Hillary or Kamala. She actually has convictions and wants to help working people. Kamala and Hillary just greased the skids for more corporate money to roll in and sold out the working class.

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u/stargarnet79 Feb 17 '26

Anyone who thinks AOC stands a chance in a national election is a fool. Come visit rural America sometime.

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u/ty_fighter84 Feb 17 '26

Thank you! It's like people just forgot what happened with Clinton and Harris.

Is it fair? No. Is it reality? Yes.

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u/stargarnet79 Feb 17 '26

They would have both made excellent presidents. AOC would make a great president if democrats were back in power. We also dont want another situation like we had with Obama that the Republican Party could just not work with a black man. They won’t be willing to work with a Latina woman either. It is absolutely unfair.

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u/redditisnotus Feb 17 '26

Kelly/Beshear is the safe dream ticket.

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u/Brent_L Feb 17 '26

AOC would be a better Senator for the time being

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u/Happiness645 Feb 17 '26

AOC for president. Not vp to an aipac schill

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u/OriginalInformal Feb 17 '26

This is the Reddit bubble on full display, lmao AOC has no chance

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u/Plane-Handle3313 Feb 17 '26

Dems won’t nominate another woman unfortunately

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u/MoiraBrownsMoleRats Feb 17 '26

I'm not going to defend it, but I feel like the last few elections have proven than a woman, especially one of color, is at a massive disadvantage in a national election.

AOC is more than qualified, but as a straight white man, Mark Kelly has an advantage in the general of not having voters turn away simply because they're bigots.

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u/juicejug Feb 17 '26

This is 2026. Qualification has no bearing on who should be president.

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u/420crickets Feb 17 '26

No disrespect to office work but I gotta say it would be refreshing to have a president we know has ever done hard physical work before. I don't believe any of the last four ever built anything or as much as held a hammer unless it was for a school project or a photo op.

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u/Pherllerp Feb 17 '26

Joe Biden and Barack Obama were by all accounts firmly middle class guys even while they were in the Senate.

Did they swing a hammers for a living? No. But they weren't born rich like Trump and W.

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u/ohnoitsbobbyflay Feb 17 '26

George W Bush served and so did Carter. In fact 31 presidents have served in the military.

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u/Sad-Professor-4053 Feb 17 '26

I think military vet is as close to blue collar you will ever get unfortunately

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u/robby_arctor Feb 17 '26

Last President without a college degree was Truman. While middle class, he did grow up on a farm and actually worked for a living at one point.

Not coincidentally, he also vetoed the viciously anti-union Taft-Hartley Act, but his veto was overridden by Congress.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

He's a 20 some year vet who was also an astronaut. Better than....well, a lot of the possibilities.

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u/liquidsyphon Feb 17 '26

This guy has the best shot of winning.

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u/entropy14 Feb 17 '26

I think Beshear has a better shot if he decides to run and can gather enough DNC/donor support

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

Andy or Talarico would probably have a shot right now. People are pushing Gavin so hard and he's just gross.Ā 

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u/Jar545 Feb 17 '26

I really don't get the newsome push and I really just think it's Californians. Like the man is obviously corrupt and not afraid to use his political power for his own gain and the gains of those who donate to him.

He would only weaken the Democrats if he is made the candidate and MAGA will have an easily verifiable corruption argument against him.

Do you want more maga...cause that's how to get more maga.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

Thank you! The trolling is hilarious but it isn't like he's doing it himself.Ā 

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u/Glitch_Ghoul Feb 17 '26

I would absolutely vote for him.

Please don't give us Kamala again, that's a guaranteed lose.

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u/DancinginTown Feb 17 '26

Which is sad because the Black lady who could sort through the crazy bullshit, explain it in plain English, and quote Jesus was just so bad šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø

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u/ike7177 Feb 17 '26

And I will most certainly vote for him

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u/jazzmaurice Feb 17 '26

Please pleass do, the world needs more NASA

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u/_dxegrl Feb 17 '26

Not a fan of his brand of neoliberalism, but I gave up on getting a real progressive not owned by a foreign country I guess.

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u/Toxic_Red Feb 17 '26

Don’t give up or fall for this propaganda

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u/Weekly-Air4170 Feb 17 '26

Everyone responding to you reminds me of the meme that we have to vote for 1933 Hitler because the opposite is 1943 Hitler without realizing that the 33 end up becoming the 43

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u/SeaEmployee787 Feb 17 '26

agree neoliberalism is not what i want either. I also think we have passed the point of trying to appease any version of the gop. I dont care what gop voters think anymore. your gop economic policies suck and your social issues boil down to this: just get involved in everybodys bussiness and scream. I also dont believe in unicorns and would vote for kelly if that was the option.

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u/goawayjason623 Feb 17 '26

Can’t wait to see how the Democrats fumble this.

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u/NotAChanceBucko Feb 17 '26

He fits the bill. We need Whitey McStraight Pants. A real john smith type. Someone who can win. Trumps gonna make fun of his last name though .

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u/Stunning_Ad3273 Feb 17 '26

ITT: a bunch of babies who are throwing a fit because he isn’t exactly like them and does it have their exact political ideas. And if the candidate is not exactly like them, they refuse to vote for them. They aren’t narcissistic or full of themselves at all btw

Down vote me all you want

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u/Weekly-Air4170 Feb 17 '26

Being against genocide is the bear fucking minimum

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u/YardSardonyx Feb 17 '26

I’m upvoting because I watched this same shit help get us Trump twice and it’s exactly how we get President Vance.

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u/Big-Recognition-4034 Feb 17 '26

Do it! The United States needs a real, serious, true patriot.

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u/pb_syr Feb 17 '26

Thomas Massey and no one will care about his party.Ā 

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u/SprinklesOk7007 Feb 17 '26

While Israel funds the whole thing

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u/Natural-Result-6633 Feb 17 '26

I would vote for him too

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u/ls7eveen Feb 17 '26

We need someone better

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u/AcousticDetonation Feb 17 '26

Kelly is anti Union

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u/Weekly-Air4170 Feb 17 '26

And pro IsraelĀ 

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u/Pristine-Ant-464 Feb 17 '26

He's funded by AIPAC tho

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u/AffectionateElk3978 Feb 17 '26

Still a pro-genocide Zionist, no thanks

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u/Stupoxi Feb 17 '26

Yay! Another politician bought and paid for by, AIPAC, the military industrial complex and corporations! Change sure is gonna come to America! I can't wait!

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u/Amonamission Feb 17 '26

Imagine that your career as a literal astronaut will be only the second most important job of your life.

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